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Understanding 9/11Grateful Dead Live at Alpine Valley Music Theatre on 1986-06-29
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- Publication date
- 1986-06-29 ( check for other copies)
- Topics
- Audience, Dave Cohen
- Collection
- GratefulDead
- Band/Artist
- Grateful Dead
- Resource
- DeadLists Project
- Item Size
- 1,002.2M
Set 1
Mississippi Half Step-> Franklin's Tower-> Dancin' In The Streets, Brown Eyed Women, Minglewood Blues, Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues, Stagger Lee, Samson & Delilah
Set 2
Shakedown Street, Estimated Prophet-> Eyes Of The World-> Drums-> The Other One-> Wharf Rat-> Throwing Stones-> Not Fade Away, E:Not Fade Away-> E: U.S. Blues
Mississippi Half Step-> Franklin's Tower-> Dancin' In The Streets, Brown Eyed Women, Minglewood Blues, Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues, Stagger Lee, Samson & Delilah
Set 2
Shakedown Street, Estimated Prophet-> Eyes Of The World-> Drums-> The Other One-> Wharf Rat-> Throwing Stones-> Not Fade Away, E:Not Fade Away-> E: U.S. Blues
- Addeddate
- 2009-12-29 18:34:03
- Identifier
- gd1986-06-29.nak100.cohen.104996.flac16
- Lineage
- The Master Cassettes were played back with Azimuth adjustment on a Nakamichi CD1 into a Korg MR1000 at DSF 1 bit 5.6MHz. Subsequent conversion to 24/96 AIFF done via Korg Audiogate software. Redbook CDR standard 16/44.1 files were created using Bias Peak, Izotope Ozone's MBIT+ (for all dithering), and Weiss Saracon SRC (all sample rate conversions)
- Location
- East Troy, WI
- Run time
- 125:09.23
- Taped by
- Dave Cohen
- Transferred by
- Dave Cohen
- Type
- sound
- Year
- 1986
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(5)
Reviewer:
rockthing
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February 6, 2019
Subject: Pleasant surprise
Subject: Pleasant surprise
Recently dug out the remnants of my old tape collection. Not sure if stuff is missing or not, but had just the second set of this show. It's been kind
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of an interesting challenge to see if I can find the sources for the tapes I've got while recording them in their raw state for posterity.
In the days when I was doing tape trades, not even the "old days," no one I was getting tapes from thought to pass on the source or lineage. In lucky cases it might say, "3rd gen" or something like that. This one was easy to spot because of the distinctive cut in the Not Fade Away//NFA Chant > NFA reprise.
This low gen transfer on the archive seems to be a little less "boomy," somehow, than the Nth generation tape in my box. Neither are exactly, "clear," but it's a very listenable recording on a home stereo system, or with neutral headphones. I was considering this as an upgrade, and completion, but source140313 manages to get the entirety of the NFA scene at, after a quick sampling, what seems to be, comparable sound quality, so at the end of the day, I think I'd go for that source simply for completist's sake.
I put this tape in the deck with some trepidation, not remembering at all what the performance was like, but being aware of the year's place in Dead history. Going through the old tapes mostly chronologically I've sat through a couple of somewhat frustrating '85 shows lately.
Having only taken in the second set of 6/29/86 so far I won't leave a rating, but I have to say that I was very pleasantly surprised by the performance here. Mostly energetic, playful, and dexterous. Garcia does not sound like a guy who's gonna be in a coma soon. Not at all. He doesn't have that sweet 60s/70s voice by any means, but in the second set he's at least choosing material that he can handle. Gone are the days of 30 minute The Other One's, but this seems like an example of how the feedback of energy from a good audience can really have an effect on a band's performance. It's a two way street, obviously.
In the days when I was doing tape trades, not even the "old days," no one I was getting tapes from thought to pass on the source or lineage. In lucky cases it might say, "3rd gen" or something like that. This one was easy to spot because of the distinctive cut in the Not Fade Away//NFA Chant > NFA reprise.
This low gen transfer on the archive seems to be a little less "boomy," somehow, than the Nth generation tape in my box. Neither are exactly, "clear," but it's a very listenable recording on a home stereo system, or with neutral headphones. I was considering this as an upgrade, and completion, but source140313 manages to get the entirety of the NFA scene at, after a quick sampling, what seems to be, comparable sound quality, so at the end of the day, I think I'd go for that source simply for completist's sake.
I put this tape in the deck with some trepidation, not remembering at all what the performance was like, but being aware of the year's place in Dead history. Going through the old tapes mostly chronologically I've sat through a couple of somewhat frustrating '85 shows lately.
Having only taken in the second set of 6/29/86 so far I won't leave a rating, but I have to say that I was very pleasantly surprised by the performance here. Mostly energetic, playful, and dexterous. Garcia does not sound like a guy who's gonna be in a coma soon. Not at all. He doesn't have that sweet 60s/70s voice by any means, but in the second set he's at least choosing material that he can handle. Gone are the days of 30 minute The Other One's, but this seems like an example of how the feedback of energy from a good audience can really have an effect on a band's performance. It's a two way street, obviously.
Reviewer:
LagerandGospel
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February 26, 2012
Subject: Alpine is melting....
Subject: Alpine is melting....
Due to that summer heat..?
I like this source out all of them. The opening three numbers are really solid and feature great playing. This is a great show ... to put on while driving to a summer festival. It will pleasantly surprise you as to how decent it is.
I like this source out all of them. The opening three numbers are really solid and feature great playing. This is a great show ... to put on while driving to a summer festival. It will pleasantly surprise you as to how decent it is.
Reviewer:
Jeff Knorek from Nova Scotia
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May 20, 2010
Subject: OK aud, okay maybe not...
Subject: OK aud, okay maybe not...
I'll always prefer a good aud to a sbd any day, but amphlitheater auds suck no matter which way you play them ~unless~ the taper was well away from the
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taper section and is aiming the mics directly at one of the stacks hanging off of the shed itself.
This tape ain't one of 'em.
The only song from this show that I am saving is the Sampson first set closer, b/c it rocks so hard
This tape ain't one of 'em.
The only song from this show that I am saving is the Sampson first set closer, b/c it rocks so hard
Reviewer:
ride_her_like_a_surfer
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December 30, 2009
Subject: 30 People In Love ...
Subject: 30 People In Love ...
Does the title of my post explain some of the weird shit that went down in the Alpine lot in '86 ?? LOL ... Anyways , what soundboard of this show are
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you talking about ?? There is no board for this date ... But this is an upgrade to Shnid #12969 to my ears at least ...
Reviewer:
garquia
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December 30, 2009
Subject: Sweet!
Subject: Sweet!
Great sounding audience!! Incredible day at Alpine this was. Hot show, from start to finish. The parking lot was crazy, a lot of weird stuff went down
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for these two shows.
Thanks to the taper for getting these Gems out there!
Burn em! More energy then the board in my opinion.
Thanks to the taper for getting these Gems out there!
Burn em! More energy then the board in my opinion.
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